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Dan: See Featured Article, "What do Cubans stand to lose, and who Dan: stands to gain?" at my website. Me: I'll be sure to do that. Emotion: rolleyes

There you can enjoy comrade Dan's "creative writing". Emotion: rolleyes Dan ... sentence to imply support for your cause: a BLATANT LIE.

I am shocked that Dan would have done such a dishonest thing. My unshakable faith in Dan's every word has been crushed. Good detective work, PL!!!

Yep.
Who would have thought this of this clean cut guy. Emotion: rolleyes It just shows that you always have to check.
PL
I'll be sure to do that. Emotion: rolleyes Cordially, Gene Ledbetter

"Today, for the first time, Amnesty International has explicitly denounced the US embargo on Cuba in humanitarian terms, and made clear its support for the immediate and unconditional lifting of these cruel sanctions" http://members.allstream.net/~dchris/CubaFAQ.html

See "Human Rights / Amnesty International slams US embargo" at this link.
AI reports:
"...the US embargo against Cuba is highly detrimental to Cubans' enjoyment of a range of economic, social and cultural rights... The negative effects of the embargo are felt disproportionately, not by the decision-makers and authorities whose policies the embargo is aimed at influencing, but by the weakest and most vulnerable members of the population."
Just how desperate is our little fascist friend here? He is SO desperate that he would actually have you believe that Amnesty Intertional, the world's leading human rights organization, would support, even as a temporary measure, sanctions THEY say are both "ineffective" and "used to harm the most vulnerable members of society." Think I'm exaggerating? See for yourself as he desperately looks for some kind of "loophole" in AI's report here:
Link to the "report": http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250172003?open&of=ENG-CUB They aren't calling for an "immediate and unconditional" end to the trade sanctions in that ... a policy that places "enjoyment of the full range of human rights at the forefront of its concerns". See: http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250172003?open&of=ENG-CUB

See what I mean, folks? You can smell his desperation over the internet! In their report (see it for yourself) AI prefaced their scathing indictment of PL's beloved embargo saying:

"Amnesty International calls for the lifting of sanctions where it believes the continuation of sanctions might contribute to grave human rights abuses. A review of the impact of the US embargo against Cuba and other related policies in this regard is deeply worrying."

Now, our desperate little Nazi boy here will probably tell us that this actually means that AI supports the US embargo! Yes, he is THAT desperate. As a propagandist and self-proclaimed lobbyist, he will say and do ANYTHING to ensure that the Cuban people are punished for their insolence and their defiance of his political masters in Miami and Washington. He is little more than an apologist for what amounts to the genoicide of the of the Cuban people.
Dan
Visit my CUBA: Issues & Answers website at
http://www.netcom.ca/~dchris/CubaFAQ.html
"Today, for the first time, Amnesty International has explicitly denounced ... the immediate and unconditional lifting of these cruel sanctions" http://members.allstream.net/~dchris/CubaFAQ.html

See "Human Rights / Amnesty International slams US embargo" at this link. AI reports: "...the US embargo against Cuba is ... authorities whose policies the embargo is aimed at influencing, but by the weakest and most vulnerable members of the population."

Look again: comrade Dan Christensen "snips" part of the considerations of a report and wants you to forget about the conclusions Amnesty draws from ALL considerations in the report.
What the report actually recommends about the "embargo" is:

"Amnesty International calls on the United States government

· to immediately suspend decisions on any measures that could toughen the embargo.
· to review its foreign and economic policy towards Cuba, with an aim towards ending this damaging practice.
· to place enjoyment of the full range of human rights at the forefront of its concerns in developing new policy towards Cuba."

Clearly no immediate and unconditional end is demanded as Dan claims. The request is for not stiffening the sanctions and to review a policy that places "enjoyment of the full range of human rights at the forefront of its concerns".
See:
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250172003?open&of=ENG-CUB
Just how desperate is our little fascist friend here? (snip)

I am no fascist.
You are the fascist comrade Dan.
You are the one supporting crimes against humanity. If you are discredited here it is by your own words and opinions:

You support a dictator that is on the list of Genocide Watch. www.genocidewatch.org
You support human rights abuses and extra-judicial killings:

Quote:
"In my opinion the advances made by the Revolution are morally well worth fighting for and justify the use of these extraordinary measures. In this case, the ends do indeed justify the means.
....
These measures, however, would NOT be morally justified in propping less worthy regimes in the region the USA and its vassal states in the Caribbean and Latin America come immediately to mind." http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=tirG3.176162%245r2.2 78940%40tor-nn1.netcom.ca
"It is wrong to think that a particular end justifies EVERY means. At this time, for example, it would be wrong of the Cuban government to send death squads after their opponents as happens in Mexico and Colombia. Again, the actions of the Cuban government in detaining these so-called dissidents seem quite mild in comparison and are morally justified under the circumstances." http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=txMG3.176443%245r2.2 84921%40tor-nn1.netcom.ca
Unquote.
I support freedom of speech, human rights and democracy.

Not desperate at all.
You are it seems.
(snip)
Note how comrade Dan snipped the first part of my post that exposes his lies.
It shows the truth behind Dan's misquotes of AI
"Comrade Dan Christensen:
Do you deny that in your posts you put some snippets from the report quoted below and on your site you also falsely claim about the same report
that:
"Today, for the first time, Amnesty International has explicitly denounced
the US embargo on Cuba in humanitarian terms, and made clear its support for
the immediate and unconditional lifting of these cruel sanctions"

http://members.allstream.net/~dchris/CubaFAQ.html
Link to the "report":
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250172003?open&of=ENG-CUB

They aren't calling for an "immediate and unconditional" end to the trade
sanctions in that report. Aren't they?
Do you deny you snipped the words "immediate and unconditional" from this
sentences in the report (THE ONLY PLACES WHERE THEY ARE USED):

"in 1.
"On the basis of the available information, therefore, Amnesty International considers the 75 dissidents to be prisoners of conscience(2) and calls for their immediate and unconditional release."
In 8.1
"· to immediately and unconditionally release the 15 prisoners previously named by Amnesty International as prisoners of conscience.

· to immediately and unconditionally release anyone else who is detained or imprisoned solely for having peacefully exercised their rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly."

and added to those snippets your own words to create this sentence on your
lying website:
" Amnesty International has explicitly denounced
the US embargo on Cuba in humanitarian terms, and made clear its support for
the immediate and unconditional lifting of these cruel sanctions"

that sentence:

1. isn't in the report
2. isn't supported by the tenure and the conclusions of the report

You snipped two three words used by Amnesty to condemn the Castro regime and
abused them in a sentence to imply support for your cause: a BLATANT LIE.
What the report actually recommends about the "embargo" is:

"Amnesty International calls on the United States government

· to immediately suspend decisions on any measures that could toughen the embargo.
· to review its foreign and economic policy towards Cuba, with an aim towards ending this damaging practice.
· to place enjoyment of the full range of human rights at the forefront of its concerns in developing new policy towards Cuba."

Clearly no immediate and unconditional end is demanded as Dan claims. The request is for not stiffening the sanctions and to review a policy that places "enjoyment of the full range of human rights at the forefront of its concerns".
See:
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250172003?open&of=ENG-CUB
See what I mean, folks? (snip)

I think anyone has seen what you tried to do comrade Dan. You abused snippets from a report.
You are completely against the conclusions and recommendations of the reports and you therefore abuse little snippets in newsgroups to "support your propaganda".
That has been exposed over and over again in SCC.
Now everyone can see it in all these other groups.

PL
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See "Human Rights / Amnesty International slams US embargo" at ... by the weakest and most vulnerable members of the population."

(snip portion of PL's posting recently debunked here or at soc.culture.cuba)
Rather than address crimes against humanity (see above) in which he, as propagandist and self-proclaimed lobbyist, is fully complicit, PL lashes out at me with his usual, pathetic attempts to discredit me each of which have recently been debunked at SCC. As if anything he said about me could somehow absolve him of these crimes! Once again, we see what a truly desperate liar he is. And that he will say and do ANYTHING to ensure that the Cuban people are punished for their insolence and their defiance of his political masters in Miami and Washington.
Dan
Visit my CUBA: Issues & Answers website at
http://www.netcom.ca/~dchris/CubaFAQ.html
PS: If you have nothing new to add (not already debunked here)and you are simply going to repeat the same old lies and distortions, I will signoff this subthread for now.
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(snip portion of PL's posting recently debunked here or at soc.culture.cuba) Rather than address crimes against humanity(snip)

I do address crimes against humanity, comrade Dan Christensen. I expose the lies of the propagandists that defend dictatorial regimes.

You are the fascist comrade Dan.
You are the one supporting crimes against humanity. If you are discredited here it is by your own words and opinions:

You support a dictator that is on the list of Genocide Watch. www.genocidewatch.org
You support human rights abuses and extra-judicial killings:

Quote:
"In my opinion the advances made by the Revolution are morally well worth fighting for and justify the use of these extraordinary measures. In this case, the ends do indeed justify the means.
....
These measures, however, would NOT be morally justified in propping less worthy regimes in the region the USA and its vassal states in the Caribbean and Latin America come immediately to mind." 78940%40tor-nn1.netcom.ca
"It is wrong to think that a particular end justifies EVERY means. At this time, for example, it would be wrong of the Cuban government to send death squads after their opponents as happens in Mexico and Colombia. Again, the actions of the Cuban government in detaining these so-called dissidents seem quite mild in comparison and are morally justified under the circumstances." 84921%40tor-nn1.netcom.ca
Unquote.
I support freedom of speech, human rights and democracy.

Not desperate at all.
You are it seems.
(snip)
Note how comrade Dan snipped the first part of my post that exposes his lies.
It shows the truth behind Dan's misquotes of AI
"Comrade Dan Christensen:
Do you deny that in your posts you put some snippets from the report quoted below and on your site you also falsely claim about the same report
that:
"Today, for the first time, Amnesty International has explicitly denounced
the US embargo on Cuba in humanitarian terms, and made clear its support for
the immediate and unconditional lifting of these cruel sanctions"

http://members.allstream.net/~dchris/CubaFAQ.html
Link to the "report":
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250172003?open&of=ENG-CUB

They aren't calling for an "immediate and unconditional" end to the trade
sanctions in that report. Aren't they?
Do you deny you snipped the words "immediate and unconditional" from this
sentences in the report (THE ONLY PLACES WHERE THEY ARE USED):

"in 1.
"On the basis of the available information, therefore, Amnesty International considers the 75 dissidents to be prisoners of conscience(2) and calls for their immediate and unconditional release."
In 8.1
"· to immediately and unconditionally release the 15 prisoners previously named by Amnesty International as prisoners of conscience.

· to immediately and unconditionally release anyone else who is detained or imprisoned solely for having peacefully exercised their rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly."

and added to those snippets your own words to create this sentence on your
lying website:
" Amnesty International has explicitly denounced
the US embargo on Cuba in humanitarian terms, and made clear its support for
the immediate and unconditional lifting of these cruel sanctions"

that sentence:

1. isn't in the report
2. isn't supported by the tenure and the conclusions of the report

You snipped two three words used by Amnesty to condemn the Castro regime and
abused them in a sentence to imply support for your cause: a BLATANT LIE.
What the report actually recommends about the "embargo" is:

"Amnesty International calls on the United States government

· to immediately suspend decisions on any measures that could toughen the embargo.
· to review its foreign and economic policy towards Cuba, with an aim towards ending this damaging practice.
· to place enjoyment of the full range of human rights at the forefront of its concerns in developing new policy towards Cuba."

Clearly no immediate and unconditional end is demanded as Dan claims. The request is for not stiffening the sanctions and to review a policy that places "enjoyment of the full range of human rights at the forefront of its concerns".
See:
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250172003?open&of=ENG-CUB
See what I mean, folks? (snip)

I think anyone has seen what you tried to do comrade Dan. You abused snippets from a report.
You are completely against the conclusions and recommendations of the reports and you therefore abuse little snippets in newsgroups to "support your propaganda".
That has been exposed over and over again in SCC.
Now everyone can see it in all these other groups.

PL