VANCOUVER, British Columbia Gian Sangha wanted to work so badly that he cut his hair and removed his turban for job interviews, even though it compromised his Sikh beliefs. He sent hundreds of resumes. He prayed fervently and finally bought a Buddha statue for good luck.
But Sangha, 55, an environmental scientist from India, could not seem to get a job in Canada, his adopted country, despite a doctorate from Germany, two published books and university teaching experience in the United States.
"Here in Canada, there is a hidden discrimination," Sangha said over cups of Indian tea and spicy pakoras, or fritters, in the dining room of his home in the Vancouver suburb of Surrey.
To scrape by, he once cut lawns. Now he does clerical work and shares his house with his extended family. It was not supposed to be this way in Canada, which years ago put out a welcome mat to professionals from around the developing world.
With a declining birth rate, an aging population and labor shortages in many areas, Canada, a sparsely populated nation, has for decades opened its doors to engineers, health professionals, software designers and electricians.
But the results of this policy have been mixed, for Canada and for the immigrants. Recent census data and academic studies indicate that the incomes and employment prospects for immigrants are deteriorating.

Specialists say a growing number of immigrants have been forced to rely on unemployment insurance and welfare, and some have returned to their homelands or migrated to the United States.
About 25 percent of recent immigrants with university degrees are working at jobs that require only high school diplomas or less, government data show.
"The most mobile workers in the world come to Canada and find themselves immobilized," said Faviola Fernandez, a teacher from Singapore who became an immigrant advocate after finding the process of getting a teaching license in Canada so unwieldy that she gave up.
Over the past decade, the country has attracted 200,000 to 250,000 immigrants a year.
As a percentage of the population, that is triple the rate in the United States. Canada's largest cities are ethnic diverse. One in every six people in Canada is an immigrant, giving it the world's second-largest proportion of immigrants. Only Australia's is higher.

Officials in South Africa and other countries have even begun to complain to Canadian officials that they are losing talent trained in their universities in a brain drain they can ill afford.

But highly skilled immigrants, who are nearly half of those who come here, frequently drive taxis and trucks, work in factories or as security guards and hope their children will do better.
The Canadian public continues to support the government's goal of increasing immigration, and relations among ethnic groups are good, though neighborhoods in some cities are becoming more segregated. But some fear that if opportunities for immigrants do not expand, social cohesion may suffer.
"The existing system is broken," said Jeffrey Reitz, a sociologist who studies immigration at the University of Toronto. "The deteriorating employment situation might mean that Canada will not be able to continue this expansionist immigration program in the positive, politically supported environment that we've seen in the past."

Reitz estimates that foreign-educated immigrants earn a total of $2 billion less than an equivalent number of native-born Canadians with comparable skills because they work in jobs below their training levels. Using census data, he found that in 1980, new immigrant men earned 80 percent of the salaries of Canadian-born men. That proportion has dropped to less than 70 percent.
He concludes that immigrant earnings in Canada are declining to the lower levels of the United States, where the skill levels of immigrants tend to be lower.
Academic specialists and immigrant advocates say that discrimination is one of the many reasons for the problem. Native-born Canadians are better educated now than 25 years ago, so immigrants have more competition, some specialists note. But all agree that professional organizations and provincial licensing agencies have been slow to recognize foreign professional qualifications. The children of immigrants, who enter the job market with Canadian credentials, typically do better at acquiring high-paying jobs, immigration specialists note.
"We have an arcane infrastructure of professional organizations that essentially mitigate against the immediate integration of these highly skilled immigrants," Joe Volpe, the minister of citizenship and immigration, said in an interview.
"It's a shame we have a shortage of doctors, and yet we have thousands of foreign-trained medical doctors and we don't recognize their credentials," he said. "We haven't found an easy way of assessing their qualifications."
Volpe said he was concerned that news from disappointed job seekers would seep back to their native countries and discourage qualified people from immigrating. In a recent speech, Volpe committed more than $250 million over five years to pay for programs to accelerate professional integration.
Since the Canadian Embassy in India and a Canadian immigration consultant encouraged Sangha, the environmental scientist, to move his family to Canada in 1996, he has not had a single job that fits his qualifications. He would have left Canada long ago, he says, if not for his two children, who have become acclimated to Canada and are now young adults. In 2001, Sangha was turned down for a job as an environmental inspector with an agency of the Northwest Territories government. He took the case to the Canadian Human Rights Commission, where it is under consideration.

The territorial government agency told the commission that Sangha had been rejected because he was overqualified and would have become bored. But Sangha said in an interview that during his job interview, an agency official had interrupted him and not paid attention to his responses, and that he was a victim of discrimination.
"It's a painful life," he said. "I'm angry and frustrated. I never thought it would be like this in Canada."
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It is true, Canadians discriminates, but in a very subtle way. Many are not real Canadians (i.e. they are originally East Europeans, South Africans, Asians, etc. who grew used to undemocratic systems).

Immigrants should kick the asses of Canadian supervisors who discriminate, it would certainly get their attention. Canadians are very proud of their high social standards and would not like it, producing immediate and satisfactory response higher in the system.
T.Schmidt
Mr. Schmidt:
Let me tell you something. Your English is a piece of *** !!! Please, write in "correntino". That will suit you better.

Thank you
Afrecho
... He prayed fervently and finally bought a Buddha statue for good luck.

Hm... He's still just a peasant inside, isn't he?
I read somewere, the Indian programmers are the most valuable in Canada and highly appreciated. But I think they do not buy Buddha before they send theirs CV.
But Sangha, 55,

So, the problem is his age as well as his peasant looks. Well, it's a serious problem, but what does it have in common with ethnics?
"Here in Canada, there is a hidden discrimination," Sangha said over cups of Indian tea and spicy pakoras, or fritters, in the dining room of his home in the Vancouver suburb of Surrey.

Aha. I'm quite sure he's got some problems with getting an apartment. A friend of mine, an owner of a small residential building (4 units) will never rent anything to an Indian. They use to rent for a couple of 2 + 2 children and then about ten other people come at once and stay with them. It must be a psychology, but the owners do not want problems with neigbourghs, etc. Then some Indians start complaining about discrimination.

I will never carry an AKM (a national tradition in Russia)as they will not understand it here in Canada. But some Indians are quite sure they have the right to carry knives even to school. If they are banned from the school for that they claim it's discrimination.
Canada, which years ago put out a welcome mat to professionals from around the developing world.

He's right here. Canada advertises opportunities but forgets to tell them that they should not invite 10 people to live if they rented an apartment for 3. But the Canadian are afraid of "discrimination". An Indian might felt offended with such a remark.
About 25 percent of recent immigrants with university degrees areworking at jobs that require only high school diplomas or less, government data show.

And what about non recent immigrants?
an immigrant advocate after finding the process of getting a teaching license in Canada so unwieldy that she gave up.

Hum... My ex got it without any major problems. And she is not from a country better than Fillipines. So who is to blame?
here, frequently drive taxis and trucks, work in factories or as security guards and hope their children will do better.

That's partly true. Shmitt, for example who never got a decent job. But not Viejo Vizacha (according to what he told here in SCA only). :-)).
"It's a painful life," he said. "I'm angry and frustrated. I never thought it would be like this in Canada."

OK, he can always make his way back to India. Or try to do something instead of sueing the government. Word gets about that he's not a nice person to deal with and none will hire him.
Regards,
George
Afrecho, se ve que dominai' el inglis, chamigo varonazo.

RLunfa
Afrecho
I don't find anything wrong. Can you tell me?
T.Schmidt
Afrecho
My mistake. I did not see I had placed an extra 's' after discriminate because I am legally blind.. is what you have between your ears.

T.Schmidt
P.S. What is the meaning of "correntino"?
Afrecho My mistake. I did not see I had placed an extra 's' after discriminate because I am legally blind.. is what you have between your ears. T.Schmidt P.S. What is the meaning of "correntino"?

"Correntino" it is the usual name for electrical engineers (220 volts a.c.) in Argentina.
RLunfa
Afrecho My mistake. I did not see I had placed ... your ears. T.Schmidt P.S. What is the meaning of "correntino"?

"Correntino" it is the usual name for electrical engineers (220 voltsa.c.) in Argentina.

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