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Hola:
Speaking of built-in ambiguities in written
statements:
Let's focus on this newspaper article whose
lead-in subtitle says: "The daughter of a hotel

manager who allegedly witnessed the gruesome
murder and mutilation of highly-paid call-girl
Nancy Myers is missing, says the police."

Now then, what exactly does this statement mean ?
Who witnessed the crime ? The daughter or the father ?
Well, the way I see it, the statement may be taken
to mean one of two things, to wit:
1. The daughter witnessed the crime.
Now she is missing. (Probably kidnapped to silence
her for good !)
2. The father saw the dastardly crime.
Now his daughter is missing. (Probably taken hostage
to blackmail him into silence !)

So, choose your pick. Which of the two allegedly witnessed the crime ?
Please tell why you think it is one and not the other.

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En otras palabras:
Hablando de ambigüedades inherentes en unas declaraciones
escritas:

Fijamonos en este articulo periodistico cuyo cabeza subtitulo
dice así: "La hija del gerente de un hotel que supuestamente
presenció la macabre asesinato y mutilación de la cortesana
Nancy Myers ha desaparecido, segun informó la policia."
Ahora bien, ¿Qué quiere decir exactamente esta declaración ?
¿Qué supuestamente presenció el crimen ? La hija o su padre ?
Bueno, a mí modo de ver, esta declaración bien se puede
entender en dos sentidos posibles, a saber:
1. La hija presenció el crimen.
Ahora ella ha desaparecido. (Probablemente sequestrada
a fin de acallarla para siempre).
2. El padre presenció el crimen.
Ahora, su hija ha desaparecido. (Probablemente raptada y
hecha rehén para chantajearle a decir nada sobre el crimen).

Así que, elijan su opción: ¿Cual de los dos realmente ha visto

este macabre crimen ? Si creen que es la hija y no el padre o
vice-versa, por favor diganos por qué así lo creen.

ojo: There is no pretension whatsoever that the preceding translation
follows standard Spanish nor even that it is alltogether grammatical,
the writer not being a native hablante. So, you may feel totally free
to "fix" it in whatever way you see fit.

Saludos y 'taluego. [H]M

Comments  
The daughter of a hotelmanager witnessed the crime and now she is missing.
Therefore option 1 is correctly.

When option 2 should be correctly, then the father must be the missing one also....

En otras palabras:

La hija presenció el crimen.
Ahora ella ha desaparecido. Claro
Si la ocasión dos sería correctamente, también el padre debería ser desaparecido.
My dear ans:
I'm no Perry Mason, much less a Sherlock Holmes,
but this is how I would proceed with my deduction:
• The daughter is definitely missing, no doubt about that.
Reason:
1. She herself saw the crime. She was abducted to prevent
her from testifying.
2. The Hotel Manager, her father, witnessed the crime.

She was abducted to silence the father.

Now, you question the probability of the second scenario saying that
if it had been the case, both father and daughter should have been missing. But

if it was the father who had seen the crime, and the intention were to eliminate him,
then there would have been no need to abduct the daughter also.
If I were involved in the crime and I knew that the father somehow witnessed it,
then, the easier way for me to keep the father from talking is simply to abduct the
daughter and use her to "blackmail" the father into silence, especially if the daughter
were not a publicly known personality, and therefore would not call too much
attention in the public mind.

Anyway, had the report been more precise in its statement, we would not have
been having this difference of opinion, isn't that right, ans ? Then, let's blame the report
for not putting a comma where it should have been. Yes, the missing coma is the cause
for the report's ambiguity.

thanx, ans, for your interest in the post.[H]M

The daughter of a hotel
manager who allegedly witnessed the gruesome
murder and mutilation of highly-paid call-girl
Nancy Myers is missing, says the police."




The daughter (of a hotel
manager) who allegedly witnessed the gruesome
murder and mutilation of highly-paid call-girl
Nancy Myers is missing, says the police."




The daughter of a hotel
manager, who allegedly witnessed the gruesome
murder and mutilation of highly-paid call-girl
Nancy Myers, is missing, says the police."

I really don`t see anywhere that the father can be the person who saw the crime.
Ok, ans, let's consider onother report:
"The wife of the General who was implicated
in the failed attemp to grab power, is now missing,
according to military authorities".

So, the wife is missing !
But who was implicated in the failed coup ?
The wife ? The General ?
What's your guess ?

[H]M
The General of course, women don`t do such things, you know that!!Emotion: stick out tongue
But, I agree, you tricked me a bit here Emotion: big smile......very good.[Y]
I was just trying to be funny, ans ! [H]M
Casi yo mordí el anzuelo, Exlmark.