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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Beginner's Spanish - EspaÃ±ol para principiantes</title><link>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BeginnersSpanishEspanolPara-Principiantes/Forum44.htm</link><description>Spanish for absolute beginners. Ask us any question you may have, no matter how easy you think it is.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3260.9132)</generator><item><title>Re: Becomming fluent/native speaking from scratch</title><link>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/gqcm/post.htm#34148</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:00:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:34148</guid><dc:creator>Juno</dc:creator><slash:comments>5</slash:comments><comments>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/gqcm/post.htm#34148</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/comments44-34148.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Hola, Gee&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Â¿CÃ³mo estas? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think u can do it too. Don&amp;#39;t worry!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Becomming fluent/native speaking from scratch</title><link>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/2/gxbk/Post.htm#33551</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:32:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:33551</guid><dc:creator>kevman</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><comments>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/2/gxbk/Post.htm#33551</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/comments44-33551.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Not reaching the same level as a native speaker should be the least of anyones problems in my opinion. As long as you can communicate well that&amp;#39;s all you need! And after all, you&amp;#39;re learning a new language, it&amp;#39;s not something that comes natural to us. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a nice thread, I&amp;#39;m looking foward to reading your success stories &lt;img src="http://forodeespanol.com/emoticons/emotion-15.gif" alt="Geeked" title="Geeked" /&gt; Maybe I&amp;#39;ll post mine one day &lt;img src="http://forodeespanol.com/emoticons/emotion-5.gif" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Becomming fluent/native speaking from scratch</title><link>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/2/gxbg/Post.htm#33547</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:04:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:33547</guid><dc:creator>magdabis</dc:creator><slash:comments>6</slash:comments><comments>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/2/gxbg/Post.htm#33547</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/comments44-33547.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Hi&lt;br /&gt;My experience with learning English tells me that nobody who starts learning a language as an adult can reach native speaker level.&lt;br /&gt;I am from Poland&amp;nbsp;and I studied English in Poland with a private teacher for about 5 years before I moved to Australia. At that time&amp;nbsp;my English was at pretty advanced level.&amp;nbsp;I have been now in Australia for 3.5 years. I am completely surrounded by the language, I speak it all day long, I hear it all day long, I work in the language, I read in the language. I have managed to achieve fluency BUT by fluency I mean I am able to have a conversation on any subject, I can understand everything, I can conduct business&amp;nbsp;and I do think in English. BUT I am not fully proficient as I still make small mistakes and speak with Polish accent. Everyone I meet can tell straight away I am not a native speaker. They all say my English is excellent but&amp;nbsp;I know it is not perfect. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So YES, you can become fluent but I don&amp;#39;t think you will ever reach the same level as a native speaker.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:  Becomming fluent/native speaking from scratch</title><link>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/gxrl/post.htm#33535</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:16:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:33535</guid><dc:creator>Pucca</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><comments>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/gxrl/post.htm#33535</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/comments44-33535.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/forodeespanol/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;wikke&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#008000"&gt;&amp;quot;..But it would be great if you were the first one in my stay in this site&amp;quot;&lt;/font&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Puca: Â¡te quiero! Â¡quÃ© aviso estupendo!&lt;img src="http://forodeespanol.com/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forodeespanol.com/emoticons/emotion-10.gif" alt="Embarrassed" title="Embarrassed" /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wikke, Â¡tÃº tambiÃ©n lo vas a conseguir!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:  Becomming fluent/native speaking from scratch</title><link>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/gnxm/post.htm#33485</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:27:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:33485</guid><dc:creator>wikke</dc:creator><slash:comments>4</slash:comments><comments>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/gnxm/post.htm#33485</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/comments44-33485.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;BIENVENIDO al foro Gee,&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;sure you are going to be our first example of the great success! &lt;br /&gt;please keep working just according your opportunities, you`ll get there,&lt;br /&gt;although within 5 years, that you cannot enforce. Impossible is nothing yet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#008000"&gt;&amp;quot;..But it would be great if you were the first one in my stay in this site&amp;quot;&lt;/font&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Puca: Â¡te quiero! Â¡quÃ© aviso estupendo!&lt;img src="http://forodeespanol.com/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Becomming fluent/native speaking from scratch</title><link>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/gnkj/post.htm#33414</link><pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:05:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:33414</guid><dc:creator>Pucca</dc:creator><slash:comments>5</slash:comments><comments>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/gnkj/post.htm#33414</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/comments44-33414.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>The truth is that I haven&amp;#39;t been long enough in this site to answer to that, sorry!&lt;br /&gt;But it would be great if you were the first one in my stay in this site &lt;img src="http://forodeespanol.com/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I were you, I would forget the verbs for now and start with the pronouns and the basic things you need to construct a sentence. Obviously, verbs are important too but it&amp;#39;s understadable if you use the wrong verb form since they are more difficult to learn.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Becomming fluent/native speaking from scratch</title><link>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/gnkg/post.htm#33411</link><pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:00:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:33411</guid><dc:creator>Gee</dc:creator><slash:comments>6</slash:comments><comments>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/gnkg/post.htm#33411</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/comments44-33411.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Thanks for your response. It gives me great hope.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are going to have Spanish days at home where the whole family are only allowed to communicate in Spanish :) The kids are going to love it ...Not&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Really looking forward to it&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are there any success stories on this site of users who started from scratch that are now living in Spain and working etc. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Would be good to read some hints and tricks from people like me&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gee&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Becomming fluent/native speaking from scratch</title><link>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/gnkr/post.htm#33405</link><pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:24:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:33405</guid><dc:creator>Pucca</dc:creator><slash:comments>7</slash:comments><comments>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/gnkr/post.htm#33405</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/comments44-33405.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Welcome to FDE, Gee! &lt;img src="http://forodeespanol.com/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am going to spend the next 5 years completely imersing myself in Spanish language and culture but I have been told that this will not be enough to get me speaking fluently at business level. Is this true?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who said it wouldn&amp;#39;t be possible?&amp;nbsp; If you are really willing to learn something, even if it&amp;#39;s on your own, you will manage it! You CAN do it!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Am I being a little optomistic or is this possible with the right methods and practise?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course it is possible!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Becomming fluent/native speaking from scratch</title><link>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/gnjj/post.htm</link><pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:35:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:33397</guid><dc:creator>Gee</dc:creator><slash:comments>8</slash:comments><comments>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/BecommingFluentNativeSpeaking-Scratch/gnjj/post.htm</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://forodeespanol.com/Archive/comments44-33397.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Hi all,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Brand new to this site so apologies if I am asking you to repeat yourselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I basically have a 5 year plan to live and work in Spain. (Probably Valencia or Barcelona). I have just yesterday signed up for my first Spanish course (Cert in Spanish) the goal is to go all the way through to evenually get a BA hons in Modern Language (Spanish and English).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;nbsp;have been working as a New Business Manager in IT for over 15 years and want to continue with my career. It seems theonly way to do this effectively is to speak fluent Spanish so I can do business in both countries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am going to spend the next 5 years completely imersing myself in Spanish language and culture but I have been told that this will not be enough to get me speaking fluently at business level. Is this true?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am going to travel to Spain probably 3 or more times per year to help with my education.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ideally I would liek to wwork for a Spanish company selling to England or an English company selling in Spain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Am I being a little optomistic or is this possible with the right methods and practise?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good to meet you guys and get prepared for lots of questiosn from me :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gee&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>